tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615782020735321095.post7380717144552970029..comments2024-03-22T10:01:23.989+00:00Comments on Wargaming for Grown-ups: Taiping LessonTrebianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02221916804339000102noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615782020735321095.post-28083564577824653422012-09-23T12:19:21.903+01:002012-09-23T12:19:21.903+01:00The point about the BOD approach is to give you a ...The point about the BOD approach is to give you a standard distribution, but we actually don't really roll enough at once for it to pan out correctly. Plus it is a lot of dice to roll without any falling on the floor.<br /><br />In theory all you really need are percentage dice. If you can alocate %age chances to things happening then you just roll the d100s and go.<br /><br />It's determining the %ages is the problem.Trebianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02221916804339000102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615782020735321095.post-25394913870512507082012-09-23T12:02:13.393+01:002012-09-23T12:02:13.393+01:00I suspect gamers are inherently conservative/preju...I suspect gamers are inherently conservative/prejudiced on the question of dice. It can't be a price issue - the cost of a few dice would be nothing in comparison to the lead fielded on any table.<br /><br />Philosophically I'm not a fan of using buckets of dice (whether d6 or any other flavour) simply because everything converges towards the average, and absolute predictability ensues. <br /><br />So I would encourage experimenting with different dice as a way of reflecting differing quality, but as single/few rolls rather than in buckets. <br /><br />CliveClive Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17768132237513687087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615782020735321095.post-1552167546612900252012-09-18T20:08:13.745+01:002012-09-18T20:08:13.745+01:00Point taken. I find it easy to switch betyween the...Point taken. I find it easy to switch betyween them as I think their use is logical.<br /><br />But then I wrote the rules.Trebianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02221916804339000102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615782020735321095.post-81742973505858684352012-09-18T18:05:39.245+01:002012-09-18T18:05:39.245+01:00TREB: The one on the dice (and you did actually sa...TREB: The one on the dice (and you did actually say that) ...<br /><br />Phil: Yes - but it was specifically within the context of changing the type of dice/having several shapes in play. I'll happily own up if I'm proved wrong on this ..SoA Shows Northhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14181076390844159417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615782020735321095.post-83372854515524223952012-09-18T13:09:53.242+01:002012-09-18T13:09:53.242+01:00Phil,
I found all of your comments helpful. The o...Phil,<br /><br />I found all of your comments helpful. The one on the dice (and you did actually say that)intrigued me and by putting it here in unattributed form I wondered if I'd get a feedback either way.<br /><br />I think you're right on the Buckets of Dice issue, so if you're going for volume d6 are the answer. It's just that using the different sided dice alters the odds without having a load of different factors.<br /><br />I got a lot of food for thought out of last night's game and I'm leaning towards seeing how a Chinese v Taiping game goes before I trash most of the system.<br /><br />Thanks for your thoughts, as ever.<br /><br />TrebianTrebianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02221916804339000102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615782020735321095.post-22107909578775403432012-09-18T12:25:39.385+01:002012-09-18T12:25:39.385+01:00That's a bit of a distortion of my comment re ...That's a bit of a distortion of my comment re dice. Your game used 3 different types of dice: I made 3 comments based on a fair amount of wargaming and on reading a lot of comment threads: (a) that using a number of _different types of dice isn't popular with players - me included, actually - unless it clearly solves a lot of problems ... (b) that if you design a game requiring 'handfuls of' D12, D8 _and D6 most people won't actually play the game as many players aren't going to go out and buy dice for it; and (c) that of the available dice most players prefer D6.<br /><br />Like all my comments, they were intended as helpful clues. Based on the surveys, feedback and even dreaded TMP polls I have seen, I don't believe they misrepresent general opinion (the Harry Callahan had something to say about opinions ...) :)<br /><br />PhilSoA Shows Northhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14181076390844159417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615782020735321095.post-825191850599798592012-09-18T08:52:54.070+01:002012-09-18T08:52:54.070+01:00This isn't an area of interest for me personal...This isn't an area of interest for me personally . . . but I have no objection to using polyhedral dice. I also often use "averaging dice" (d6s numbered 2,3,3,4,4,5) in my games.<br /><br />I wish you good luck with your rules as you work them through the playtests.<br /><br /><br />-- JeffBluebear Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05171345165563779232noreply@blogger.com